and this friend I did learn the essential requirement for a botanist, or any naturalist, - 'to cultivate the seeing eye' - an ability, if that is the right word, which proved advantageous in other circumstances also, provided one also learns to be diplomatic! Q. Has botany always been your main hobby? A. I am not very happy about the word 'hobby' in this context. Whilst botany has been my main interest, I have delved into many disciplines in the natural history field, particularly ornithology, bryophytes, Odonata, some groups of diptera, mycetozoa, lepidoptera and phytophagous hymen- optera. In brief, my interests have included anything concerned with natural history and local history, too, All these interests were stimulated, when, soon after starting work, I was wandering in Epping Forest one week-end and met a member of a natural history society - not the Field Club - and subsequently joined the local branch. Here I met and talked with persons with like interests to my own, and soon learned from them a great deal more about all aspects of the various disciplines. In a way we have returned to your first question, I could not join the Field Club then, although I became aware of its existence from my visits to the Museum in the Romford Road, simply because I could not afford the subscription which was then one guinea - a large sum in those days, I managed to join eleven years later. For much ths same reason, I could not obtain, say, Bentham and Hooker, or any similar book and, although our local librarian was most helpful, the books I wanted then were in the Reference Section and could not be taken home to be studied. I should add that in those days there was not the plethora of books on natural history subjects that can be found today, Q. It is said that people interested in specific disciplines of natural history, turn towards matters of Conservation in general, later in life, Is this true in your case, and have you any comments to make? A. I do not think it is true in my case. I recall that soon after joining the natural history society, one of the Page 6