PERSONAL VIEW —- FRED WILLIAMS (Mr. E.F. Williams is our Recorder for Butterflies and Moths, and a former president of the Club. At his sixteenth century,authentically restored Navestockside house I was priviledged to record the following chat about his interests and views on natural history. — Editor) W.R.M. Tour work, I believe, before your retirement was that of a Lloyds Underwriter, so your interest in Natural History is something completely separate? Was it any specific or significant event that gave you this interest? E.F.W. I can answer that best by saying that in 1906 my family moved to Shenfield from London, and from then on I spent most of my spare time either yachting or going on Natural History rambles with my father who was interested in both pursuits. He had been a naturalist from his boyhood, interested particularly in birds, butterflies and moths, and he was also terribly interested in yachting. Now, both these interests really run together in a way because of the saltings. So all my life I've known saltings, and especially the Essex saltings. But also my father had a library of books which helped me enormously to foster this interest. So natural history just came naturally to me. W.R.M. Most of us in the Field Club associate you with Skippers Island, Did you view its purchase as a means for you to escape from the City at weekends, or was it bought essentially to turn eventually into a nature sanctuary? E.F.W. I've always thought of the countryside as a potential nature sanctuary ever since I was a small boy. And it's always worried me when I've seen building going on which reduced the habitat areas for all sorts of species, of animals and plants. I had nothing specific in mind when I bought Skippers Island, just that it was a delightful spot, removed from man's activities, and that is really why I bought it. At that time the idea of nature sanctuaries wasn't quite so much in people's minds as it is now. But the germ has been with me all my life. I'm a conservationist at heart, although I've never thought about it like that. Page 4