fragments of insects, they crumble easily to a find powder, whereas mouse and rat droppings are pasty when fresh and become increasingly hard as they dry. Care must be taken not to underestimate the numbers of bats using a barn as the quantity of droppings visible does not necessarily provide a guide to the numbers of bats using the roost. Very few droppings could be seen in the barn with 35 Natterer's bats. Brown Long-eared bats are more commonly found in barns than Natterer's. These bats tend to be found using the central ridge beam and hence the place to look for bat droppings would be on the floor beneath the ridge. If the barn is in use, droppings should be visible scattered on top of stored items such as chemical drums or vehicles, even if the barn is regularly swept. It was found that 82% of suitable barns had evidence of bats; this represented 40 barns. Fifteen of these barns had evidence of Natterer's bats (37.5%), 13 had evidence of Brown Long-eared, just 4 had Pipistrelles and only 2 had Serotines. Some of the barns were used by more than one species of bat. Twenty-one were only occasionally used and 6 had had bats in the past but not recently. Evaluation of the data revealed that the Natterer's roosts all had common features. The barns were all listed buildings, all had hollow mortise joints, open/absent doors, unimpeded flying space within the barn and were all close to woodland. The figures for Hertfordshire revealed that 83% of barns used by bats were listed buildings. Of these listed buildings, 50% had evidence of Natterer's bat and 25% had breeding roosts of this species. Since 1991, six breeding Natterer's sites have been found in Hertfordshire. One is in a roof space of a converted stable, five are in barns. Of these five, only one colony roosts at the apex of a barn roof, whilst the other four all use mortise joints. Unfortunately, it has become common practice to convert these redundant barns into luxury homes. One of the breeding roosts has already been lost and planning applications are currently being considered for the conversion of another. Barn conversions are therefore a major conservation problem. If important sites are not identified, bat roosts will be lost. In areas where these types of barns are a common feature. Bat Groups could play a significant role in ensuring that bats like our Natterer's bats continue to remain a part of our countryside. 52